Caine2: Doom Cannon

Since Sword Knights are helluva expensive I’ve decided to postpone the Stryker2 Swarm until after the January errata, since buying 200 dollars worth of models that might stop working in 2-6 weeks would be silly. Instead I bought my DOOM CANNON to field with Caine2, and it was spectacular.

DOOOOOOOM!

I played it against a Skorne beast heavy Zaadesh2 list last night, and while not the most accurate of tests since he had no real way of dealing with it at range, the damage output of the doom cannon was just spectacular. I went second, and on the very first turn I sacrificed a Ranger to allow me to land the shot on a bunch of Bloodrunners hiding in a forest, and the massive crater left four dead Runners.

The second turn I try my luck at the Titan Sentry, and the look on his face when the ARM 21 Sentry took 11 damage was just priceless. The third and final round – after which he conceded due to lack of actual models on the table – the doom cannon landed 8 damage on a Titan Gladiator. The grand total was then four kills and two badly damaged heavies, and some cackling lunatic in the corner raving about doom cannons and getting nuked from orbit.

Captain Allister Caine (Caine2)
– Reinholdt
– Centurion
– Centurion
Journeyman Warcaster
– Charger
Lieutenant Allison Jakes
– Cyclone
Rangers (Leader & 5 Grunts)
Field Mechaniks (Leader & 3 Grunts)
Ragman
Captain Arlan Strangeways
Rhupert Carvolo
Horgenhold Artillery Corps
– Captain Jonas Murdoch

The list is an attempt at making Caine2 into a standard drop against Circle as well, without sacrificing the core mechanics of it. The first game I tried downgrading one Centurion to an Ironclad, and ended up in a two zone scenario I had real trouble dealing with, so I’m going to try and downgrade one Cyclone to a Charger, reduce the two Gobbers back to Field Mechaniks, and get that second Centurion back in the list. Now more talk about the Doom Cannon!

  • Accuracy: RAT 5 with boosted attack rolls, and access to Rangers and Aim.

Potentially boosted RAT 9 shots, and Reinholdt in the list to remove stealth. This will land hits on just about anything in the game, giving me a big fat ‘nope’ zone for quite a few models in the game. Adding to Caines own ‘nope’ zone this makes life difficult for a lot of things in the game. It also has Arcing Fire, so hiding behind models might not work either.

  • Single target damage: POW 14, with an additional die and boosted damage.

Ouch! Even ARM buffed heavies need to respect an average damage of 28 points, and spikes on these rolls really bloody hurt. Theoretically the Doom Cannon rolling all sixes could one-shot several light jacks/beasts in the game, with a whopping 38 damage cap, but even rolling average all game will hurt something bad.

  • Area of Effect damage: POW 7, with boosted damage on all blast damage rolls.

Though not exactly something Caine2 is lacking, the ability to remove some guys that were otherwise hard to get to is nice enough. It leaves some order of activation sequence more open, and if they’re bunched up it can blow up a lot of dudes.

  • Threat Range: Four inch move, three inch assault, and sixteen inch range = 23″

That’s absurd. Even average speed models will need to be careful about their first turn if they run. With a nice drift the Doom Cannon might even kill enemy AD troops on the first turn, and from the second turn it’ll never be without a target.

Issues

Even though I don’t like it, the Doom Cannon has issues, and the main one is survivability. Being DEF 10 / ARM 15 means that even a Gobber can kill them without all that much trouble. Being RNG 16 helps a lot, but they’re still within range of most ranged model retaliation. Caine2 solves a lot of those problems, as all the little guys with attacks to spare go *poof*, and heavy weapons fire can be pawned of to the grunts in the doom unit.

The second defense mechanism is Murdochs mini-feat, which turns them up to mighty DEF 14 for a turn. Sadly it doesn’t really stack with anything, but DEF 14 is something at least, especially if Caine already removed the low POW attacks, so the enemy has to dedicate both focus and high POW shots to dealing with them. I’m sure there are other issues – like someone running to engage, which Caine sort of solves – which will reveal themselves in time, but for now I’m off to make some model sandbags and paint the shells with nuclear warning signs.

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  1. The HAC is interesting. I’ll have to take a look at that. I’ve been mostly playing around with an Avenger Jack Marshalled to the ATGMs. Similar effect (and if you ever get to Take Aim, it gets vulgar POW 16 on directs, POW9 Boosted Blast damage) and snipe gives it pretty decent threat range (18″ walking, 14″ aiming). You’ll pretty much never fish for crit brutals, but it is an option. It does have the benefit though of adding in the auto-knockdown on the gun, which can set up Caine runs or act as a broad shadowfire effect for clearing gun lines. I’ve been taking Grenadiers/Alexia/Trenchers as the speed bump in the list, and the Gren acts as my back-up for FFE in case something can deal with the Avenger.

    • I’ve gone into total theory-machine on the Doom Cannon. Haley2 can Temporal Accelerate it, TK, and a Master Gunner can add another shot, for three shots with 24″ threat! I’ll have to try that for the lulz!

      • …and it only costs an extra 8 points and 3 focus! seriously just buy 2 and care not about buffing it directly. Rust and Kiss work just fine on warjacks. But if you do fall in love with the cannon, FFE and other great cannon tech is available in mercs.

        Mercs have lots of stupidly good stuff, undiscovered faction really. Consider Barts feat and compare it to haley2s, when you figure it does the same thing and more but effects 3 player turns you begin to wonder about how mercs have it so good and how blind the community is to it.

        • Mercs have been booting me in the face the entire duration of MK3. They’re spectacular. If not for the fact that I already started Cygnar I would sooo jump that Bandwagon.

          Also, Haley2 won’t mind the price and focus if the enemy caster eats all three shots and dies. Caine3 has Calamity which is a debuff, so I’m likely to bring HACs with him as well (if the rest of the package works of course).

          Haley1 Artillery spam also seems a fun option.

          • if you take 2 naked cannons you can spend the 3 focus to accelerate something else like a defender and put out more shots. Going down this route I would be looking at mr hurricane with his slamtastic cannons. With HAC on the table that’s a death warrant right there.

            Actually with hurricane and HAC, nevermind haley2, play Stryker 1 for snipe and quake, or sturgis 1 for snipe and drag feat.

            Something like this…

            Points: 75 / 75
            Sturgis1 (Commander Dalin Sturgis) -30
            – Hurricane 39
            – Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator 4
            – Firefly 8
            Horgenhold Artillery Corps 6
            Horgenhold Artillery Corps 6
            Captain Arlan Strangewayes 4
            Lieutenant Allison Jakes 4
            – Charger 9
            – Charger 9
            Eiryss, Angel of Retribution 6
            Ragman 4
            Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist 4
            Gobber Tinker 2
            Objective: Bunker

          • That sounds fun. Hurricane is out soon :D

          • BTW, not to beat a dead horse, but if you are on the H2 bandwagon. The ATGs jack marshaling a hunter can allow you to Temporal 2 AP shots into the enemies deployment zone. Add in Strangeways and you can boost one. I’ve caused some real panic in casters or key solos that are right on the line by taking them out before they get to move. (You probably never take a caster off the board with that, but it can cost them focus and screw up their order of operation pretty badly.)

          • I do love ‘got you’ moments, but Gun Mages and Hunters not so much :(

    • I haven’t tried the gun with Caine2 yet (and haven’t been playing much Cygnar in general the last few months), but I have used it in Mercs and can wholeheartedly recommend it – even when you don’t have any way to directly buff it.

      The thing’s been an absolute beast with Madhammer and Ossrum, which is appropriate… and in Mercs, it’s still relatively easy to stack damage buffs.

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