Prophet of Everblight: 1

I need to build a second list for the coming tournament, and pThagrosh has intrigued me for a while. pVayl is aggression incarnate, so pThagrosh seems like the obvious partner with his excellent defensive qualities. I can’t help but notice how much that setup looks like my Cryx setup, with a tiny aggressive girl and a big defensive beat stick.

Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight
– Naga Nightlurker
– Carnivean
– Ravagore
– Scythean
Blighted Nyss Striders (Leader and 5 Grunts)
– Blighted Nyss Striders Officer & Musician
Farrow Bone Grinders (Leader and 3 Grunts)
Spawning Vessel (Leader and 5 Grunts)
The Forsaken
The Forsaken

This is my list so far, and I’ve got just a single game to test and tweak it. The plan is about as simple as the list. The Striders attempt to eliminate key models while FoW and Tenacity/Spiny Growth keeps the list in working order (Tenacity from the Shredder spawned by the pot, since I couldn’t find the points to include one otherwise).

The second turn it either engages or shoots some more, while getting Spiny Growth up on all the heavies, and with Death Shroud and pThagrosh about 5″ behind the heavies it’s hopefully impossible to nuke them down. I’ll have to see how that goes come Monday, because the tournament is the following weekend.

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  1. Hm, the list looks more than solid. You got the triumvirate, the naga to get around buff-spells and striders.

    pThag is one of the few lists that doesn’t need the shredder that much, so feel free to spawn what you want. That elf-hooker hugging the other flank, trying to avoid getting shot by the naga? Spawn a harrier… some jucy living target or stuff bunched up for a spray? spawn a stinger… want to use your naga or forsaken a bit more aggressively? Spawn a shredder and hand out tenacity.

    What you may consider is dropping one forsaken for a shepherd and a martyr. The Ravagore stays pretty much in the back anyway, so a shepherd can soak that fury w/o putting himself too much into harms way. You also can heal and activate a beast, w/o using thagrosh…which has some merits if you want to cycle his STR buff and the heavy benefiting from it at the start of your turn has a wrecked spiral.

    Being able to nuke stuff early or put dragon-blood on a enemy heavy warbeast is also pretty much golden, so at 50points I wouldn’t skip the martyr.

    pThag is also pretty easy to play and get a hang on…so given the fact that your tournament isn’t that far away anymore, picking him isn’t a bad idea.

    I’m not sure if the combo is the best in the long run, given the fact that both lists do better against hordes (pThag can be a nightmare for circle…) and have similar weaknesses. pVayl doesn’t likes to be shot at that much and most people who run gun-lines, have some ways to ignore stealth and concealment. So the strider screen in both list evaporates pretty fast… and while pThag is a brick, I’m not sure if his buff-stacking is big enough to survive the debuff or damage dice stacking some other casters can provide (pDenny, skorne, Butcher). Removing tons of high-def targets could be tricky too, esp with pThag… even if you remove iron flesh/defenders ward with wraith bane, legion beasts are still only MAT6…

    In the end it depends on your meta and your available model stock (+your motivation to buy more stuff). If your meta is hordes-heavy that match-up make work pretty well. If you don’t face stuff, that can break the brick or shoot it to death…great… if your meta is swamped by cryx and high-def spammers, I’m not that sure if combining those two is such a great idea…. I mean you’re a cryx player yourself, would you really fear a two list tournament against a legion player, who bring pVayl and pThag?

    • I can always justify buying more stuff, and the Shepherd/Martyr suggestion will be taken into consideration.

      I’m seriously considering a two list format with Prime & Epic Vayl, so the main reason I’m bringing pThagrosh now is because he seems like the easiest Warlock to use, because I have the models needed, and because he has the ability to destroy someone that can’t handle the high ARM.

      In the long run I see myself being very happy with pVayl, eVayl, and probably Bethayne in time (she seems like so much fun), but who knows. I don’t know if I would fear a pVayl/pThags setup, but fielding Terminus it has to say ‘Omen’ before the casters name to give me any real pause, so I guess I’m a bit jaded :D

  2. Don’t get me wrong, pThag is easy to use AND a lot of fun…

    …but I agree with you that p&eVayl makes a nice combination. That’s what I play mostly right now, except for the odd games where I throw a fun list into the mix. My last fun games was eThag with 3 heavies and a throne against a beast heavy troll list…THAT was a hilarious match, esp. since we two combined had less models on the table than each of the two guys on the next table (cryx vs menoth).

    eVayl is a fabulous warlock, but nothing I would bring to a timed turns or death-clock tournament w/o having played a bunch of games with her. At least compared to pThag.

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